Comments on: Liberal Environmentalists Aren’t Pro-Choice, Are They? http://www.skepticsglobalwarming.com/global-warming-myth/lifestyle/liberal-environmentalists-prochoice/ Global Warming Myth Refuted Weekdays Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:31:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: AGWDoubter http://www.skepticsglobalwarming.com/global-warming-myth/lifestyle/liberal-environmentalists-prochoice/comment-page-1/#comment-983 AGWDoubter Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:04:38 +0000 http://www.skepticsglobalwarming.com/?p=1767#comment-983 Shane, For the past eight years, the world has not been warming. Granted, eight years is not a statistically significant trend, but neither is the 20 years preceding it when it was 'warming'. I'm actually against CFLs because they are actually WORSE for the environment. They take far more energy to produce to begin with, the long-life claims are pretty dubious (I don't find I have to replace incandescents THAT often) and disposing of them is problematic. Granted each individual bulb will only contain trace amounts of mercury, but thousands of them will have a very negative impact on the environment. Do you honestly think most people will take the time to dispose of them properly? As for cars, again it's a little simplistic to think that in all instances public transit is more environmentally friendly. Most buses and commuter trains run nearly empty outside of peak periods, which actually makes a car a 'greener' per-person option. Shane,
For the past eight years, the world has not been warming. Granted, eight years is not a statistically significant trend, but neither is the 20 years preceding it when it was ‘warming’.

I’m actually against CFLs because they are actually WORSE for the environment. They take far more energy to produce to begin with, the long-life claims are pretty dubious (I don’t find I have to replace incandescents THAT often) and disposing of them is problematic. Granted each individual bulb will only contain trace amounts of mercury, but thousands of them will have a very negative impact on the environment. Do you honestly think most people will take the time to dispose of them properly?

As for cars, again it’s a little simplistic to think that in all instances public transit is more environmentally friendly. Most buses and commuter trains run nearly empty outside of peak periods, which actually makes a car a ‘greener’ per-person option.

]]> By: Shane http://www.skepticsglobalwarming.com/global-warming-myth/lifestyle/liberal-environmentalists-prochoice/comment-page-1/#comment-979 Shane Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:22:42 +0000 http://www.skepticsglobalwarming.com/?p=1767#comment-979 While I agree that global warming maaaaay be out of our control, it's definite that it's happening. You're right about our choices being reduced, but sorry to sound like a broken tree hugger record, it's our past choices that have brought us to this point. It's evident from lines "like we can choose an ethanol-based gasoline solution that provides fewer miles per gallon and, over the course of the entire production process, creates just as much pollution as oil-based fuel. Or we can choose automobiles that run on gasoline - even gas-guzzling models if we can afford it" that you're trapped in one mode of thinking, everybody must have a car: http://theendisalwaysnear.blogspot.com/2008/05/god-car.html Personally, I don't drive, but that's a choice I've made. It's a sad fact that eventually prices will increase as we won't be able to drive down to WalMart everytime our incandescent light bulbs burn out. While I agree that global warming maaaaay be out of our control, it’s definite that it’s happening. You’re right about our choices being reduced, but sorry to sound like a broken tree hugger record, it’s our past choices that have brought us to this point. It’s evident from lines “like we can choose an ethanol-based gasoline solution that provides fewer miles per gallon and, over the course of the entire production process, creates just as much pollution as oil-based fuel. Or we can choose automobiles that run on gasoline - even gas-guzzling models if we can afford it” that you’re trapped in one mode of thinking, everybody must have a car: http://theendisalwaysnear.blogspot.com/2008/05/god-car.html
Personally, I don’t drive, but that’s a choice I’ve made. It’s a sad fact that eventually prices will increase as we won’t be able to drive down to WalMart everytime our incandescent light bulbs burn out.

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